Sacramento – Gavin Newsom has a new political podcast in case you haven’t heard, and he Not the only Who is talking?

The brave governor of California made national headlines and did not stir small quantities Discussions among fellow Democrats By taking on a series of partisan conversations with the likes of Magazine Megastars Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon.

Our columnists Mark Z. Barabak and Anita Chhabria have different views on what Newsom has achieved, what his goal is, and whether the governor should be in the business of political chat shows.

Here they have it.

Barabak:Anita, I think I’m long and hard and trying to find something good about Newsom’s new side gig.

Hmm…

I’m still thinking about it.

The sound quality is decent. I’ll give it to him.

Chhabria: Dear Lord, are you really going to let me start a day protecting Gavin Newsom?

I admit, I might be the only opinion writer in the United States that did not condemn the governor for his new podcast. And I support what I said in the previous column. The difference between ideas and implementation of this is wider than in the US Gulf.

I think the idea of ​​what Newsom means is smart and necessary – reaching voters who sincerely believe (and may still believe) that Maga is a labor family party and Democrat territory for a long time.

Many of these voters have left the traditional media behind and are getting what is known as information from Steve Bannons podcasts around the world. So stepping into that swamp is something Democrats have to do. It’s a little different from many Democrats who hold city hall in the Republican district where their representatives cover their dog ducks.

At the very least, can Democrats need to communicate better and find common ground for a larger audience?

Barabak: Common grounds, achievement.

Yes, Democrats need to broaden their audiences and refine their message. Although I would point out that the current dissonance is not so unusual for parties without power. Sorry to inform the frustrated public, but I will serve as the next standard rep only when Democrats have a 2028 candidate, and when they have a singular voice and vision to compete with President Trump and Republicans.

Also, there’s no big problem with Democrats sitting with Charlie Kirks of the world, just as lewd as a part of him. Anti-Semitism, Race bait And then there was a comment about Trump worship. We can use that dialogue more and use people willing to get out of their partisan shrinking packaging.

That said, I don’t know why our governor isn’t spending more time doing his job. Haven’t there been any major fires in Southern California recently? Isn’t that more important than satisfying the broadcast wave with something more gas?

And if the newspapers are insisting on having such conversations, then at least not call for some of those naughty statements or repeat the lie, for example, the fact that the 2020 election is being stolen.

Cringy doesn’t begin to explain Newsom’s fawn performance. There are doormats that are less walking than our distortion governor.

Have you grossed out just like me?

Chhabria: That surpassed the gloss out. It was offensive and confusing to hear California leaders forgive so many lies and hate them for being unchecked. I’m not asking him to jump into his chair and scream in Bannon’s face (though that might raise your reputation), but I think it would be nice to say that the simple “2020 election was not fraudulent.”

Now, back to the execution part. I agree that talking to Kirks and Bannons is a good thing. I also agree that allowing them to control the conversation and spread propaganda that doesn’t check propaganda will harm the listeners he represents and the Californians.

I don’t really care about Democrats, but I care about democracy. Our president is now challenging the power of judicial powers to fulfill his duties as a check on the presidential forces. The IRS is doing everything it can to see what experts are looking forward to now Tax revenue for the sharp drop is $500 billion. Thousands of middle-class federal workers have been fired. The Ministry of Education may no longer be there.

The list continues. The key is that Americans, whether they are members of minority parties or not, need systematic pushbacks for the benefit of the country. Whether it takes the form of a peaceful Tesla protest, the red DISTRICT City Hall, or the nasty podcast, I’ll take it.

Do you think this is the usual political cycle? As junior US senators in California prefer, they are a natural and natural approach to catching the course, awaiting a fierce fightback.

Barabak: I submitted that Trump last saw “normal” leave town almost a decade ago after he got off that gold plated escalator and launched what looked like a whimsical self-promotion. Who guessed that he would not only become president, but would appear as the most dominant and important person in the national scene since Franklin D. Roosevelt?

These are difficult and frightening times, as you suggest.

I agree that it is important to resist the president’s authoritarian impulses. This 248-year-old experiment we call American democracy may take a very good break in the hands of our highly politicized Supreme Court. That may not be awfully reassuring to many, but the fact is that Democrats, a minority in the House and Senate, are less powerful than some of the more bubbled partisans out there would speculate.

It may seem eternal, and the Lord knows what terrible damage will be brought during that time, but voters – people! – Until the midterm elections in 2026, there will be no opportunity to put the brakes on Trump and his destructive ball.

I’ll take us in 2028 and return to Newsom. Aside from celebrating his ego and serving his remarkably short attention span, the whole point of the governor’s new podcast (the second podcast he was involved in, by the way) appears to position himself for a fully equipped presidential run.

Do you think he’s helping his cause?

Chhabria: I can’t see it yet. You’ll find that the podcast that attracts unexplored viewers has been a success. Is the platform right-wing flop? Not that much.

Our governor is making long shot bets on a race that is just beginning.

In the White House, how do you think it will help or hurt him?

Barabak: I don’t think it’s useful. On the contrary, we see many moments of spliceable and dice that can be used against him in the Democratic nomination contest.

To quote just one, conservative radio personality Michael Savage talked about long, hairy, including being served hot dogs while traveling in the air. The evidence said Trump was “a very sensitive man for others.”

“I agree,” Newsom nodded enthusiastically, referring to the president who has shown many times that his sympathy can easily fit within the thimble and leaves plenty of space behind.

Let’s face it, as you suggest, as you suggest, as you suggest, it’s a long shot in the first place. Especially since it’s hard to see his party turn to another San Francisco Democrat as their savior after the defeat of Kamala Harris.

But there is this comfort. Newsom is well positioned for one job after his term ended in January 2027. After showing off the flexibility and enthusiastic accommodations of Magamover, Newsom has no trouble acquiring his status as a matere or concierge at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.