Transition therapist Isabel Ayala detailed on Thursday how her parents were able to receive cross-sex hormone therapy, claiming they were pressured by doctors to accept transition therapy.

Ayala appeared on “The Megyn Kelly Show” and talked about how she attempted to transition from female to male at age 14, but reversed the process three years later. Ayala said she met for just 45 minutes with several different people, including Dr. Jason Rafferty, chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics' LGBTQ+ Health and Human Services Committee, before she was diagnosed with gender dysphoria. said.

Ayala said that even before she first met Lafferty, she noticed how the trans community dictated behavior to people, including herself, in order to receive hormone treatment. (Related: How the healthcare industry prevents people transitioning from receiving critical treatment)

“You said you were emotional and suicidal,” Kelly said of Ayala's condition before hormone treatment.

“Yes, but it wasn't like that at the time. It was similar to what I read online,” Ayala replied. “Just like we need to push people up and build them up; [see] The gravity of the situation if you want to get what you want in terms of hormones. And that could mean lying. I believe that is still encouraged in the trans community today. ”

“I met with several people: his nurse, and him,” Ayala continued. “He basically sat me down and asked me questions about my background. I was just a young kid at the time and wasn't ready to deal with the deep trauma that I had gone through. So I asked him… , I just said, “Yes, I don't like my body, I feel uncomfortable with my breasts and my genitals.'' That was enough for him to diagnose me with gender dysphoria. ”

Kelly asked Ayala if she felt like she became Lafferty's “guinea pig” after learning that the doctor was one of the ringleaders. author Contributed to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) 2018 study on the use of hormone therapy.

“Of course,” Ayala said. “As you say, you didn't even know half the time what you were doing. While I was taking testosterone and spiraling in real time, you were actively saying, 'Oh, This may be the right thing to do,” he actively wrote.finish[ed] Later that year, he attempted suicide and was actually hospitalized. ”

“So, go home. I think it was on that visit or on the second visit that he prescribed the testosterone. And this seems serious. It's the needle that injects it, right?” Kelly asked the question.

“No, you're doing it yourself. It's pretty intense. It's like having a full syringe, a full 20 gauge needle, stuck in your leg every week. For some people it happens more often than that. '' Ayala said.

“You and your parents must have been distraught when the doctor told you, 'This is what we need to do,' not knowing what to do and what was in your best interest. I feel sorry for you. So what did mom and dad say about that?” Kelly asked.

“They supported me the best they could,” Ayala said. “They assumed that these were the experts who were supposed to be reputable, who had gone to school, who were supposed to be experts on this issue.” [them] “If you don't do this for your child, your child will die.'' So they were trying to support me as much as they could at the time. ”

Ayala went on to talk about how hormone therapy had a huge impact on her body, saying she had been on hormones for “a long time.” She went on to say that even after the Rhode Island resident was hospitalized for her suicide attempt, her treatment of Lafferty never stopped.

After Ayala transitioned, she filed a lawsuit against AAP, claiming that doctors overlooked her previous diagnoses of autism, ADHD, PTSD, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and depression before undergoing hormone treatment. . according to to the New York Post.